Well. it's just one of those things. Every time anyone tells me I'm so talented and wishes they could draw like me, I tell them it was a lot of hard work over many years. It's not something that is going to happen over night. Your friend should figure out what he would do best at and then start studying from that perspective. In other news I have this bookmarked, It's got some good resources and some VERY handy books PDFed at the end. If you can't find them at the library then at least you can have a PDF.
I just want to remind you all that my friend is not going to art school, but Game Design, which is pretty similar to software shit and programing but he also wants to aim for the creative part which is the reason why he wants to learn how to draw. You would know this if you read the second line. Irrelevant +2 discussion because PerpA misread everything... But I have to agree with PerpA on something: "Art and animation aren't pointless, but going to school for them IS." While I'm proud to say that I have awesome teachers (specially drawing teacher is amazing) pretty much a lot of things I learn are stuff I can find in online/offline books and I know plenty of people who will teach me techniques online and offline too, and there are a lot of courses here that are a fucking waste of my time (Semiotics...). I'm just here because I need to be a major if I want to get well paid. And because I really don't fit anywhere else (tried Graphic Design already). Thought I have to disagree on the "end up working in Starbucks". Other art majors like film, printing, etc. or even sculpture and photography ones may face this problem because the market for them is either too small and hard to get into or because it's slowly dying, but illustrators can easily find a job. No local market? No problem, online portfolio :U I know a lot of people that works like that. I just typed "30 years old learns to draw" on Google, the thread didn't appear but I opened a lot of threads of people who where trying to learn how to draw and some poster linked that thread.
No, what you're talking about are technological advances for the most part. Who do you think is smarter, the guy who creates a little doodle, or the guy that invents the process of circuit-lithography allowing us to print circuits like we do today? The asshole who makes a fish in a little program, or the guy that coded the program? Its the technicians we have to thank for making the progress possible, the artists just then make use of it, they have the easy job.
Ok maybe I should rephrase. You won't find a GOOD job, and there's very little opportunity for advancement. One is hardly likely to find oneself with millions.
Yes, but at their content state they don't yell "FUK DA GOVRNMT!" as if entitled to anything more by default.
If there WAS an easy solution to this timeless predicament, we would have no dA subforum for the sake of collective entertainment, duh.
lol this thread. Thanks to everyone who gave advice. I friend is browsing the thread (not the same friend featured in the OP, another one) and asked me to post this: He drew it with mouse. I don't know what he is trying to achieve. I think he want us to say how much of a piece of shit this drawing is or something.
If he ever tries to draw on the computer with a mouse again, please pour boiling water on his hands. About the whole "art school is pointless" discussion, it isn't necessary but it isn't pointless either. You learn (or should learn) more than just to draw pretty pictures. It teaches you discipline, time management, how to market yourself, etc. I technically didn't go to an all art school (it was more of a tech college for game design), but it gave me the opportunity to create a website, business cards, etc. Plus, working in teams with classmates and getting critique from them and instructors is all a part of preparing you to work professionally. It shows your dedication to your talent. Not to mention, it's extremely rare when a job posting doesn't require a BFA in something. You had better have one incredibly amazing portfolio to make them consider you without a degree. Not saying that doesn't happen, but you get my point. Is art college overpriced? Well... yeah. That's a given.
As someone who's learning both art and programming, you're obviously delusional. What kind of point are you trying to prove? All I get is "Chickens are better than fishes because fishes can't walk". Talent doesn't exist, only passion and dedication. So let's say, you might be good at catching up details and putting them on paper, but if you don't draw and practice everyday them your "talent" is as good as nothing. Same with everything, be it music, a new language or learning a new subject... You are not born with talent, you earn it. Oh, and if it's an fine artist, it's not just a 2 hours doodle, it's a 2 hours doodle and 20 more years of experience spent drawing. A fine programmer can also code, let's say, a basic battle system in 2 hours and he certainly didn't learn everything on spot right on those two hours. Just like the artist, he spent years studying his craft. Also when I code something if it works, it's perfect. Everything I learn comes out flawless because I'm simply stating true facts to the computer. However, If I draw a football ball, it's a football ball alright but it's wonky, has ugly shadows and everyone hates it. Pfft, the market is pretty crappy right now so don't use the lack of jobs as an excuse to degrade a profession.
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