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  1. Slavoj Jizzek Girlvinyl

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    They were basically hypocrites in a lot of disappointing ways, though. Bootlegged whisky and smuggled rum financed our rebellion and what were the first two things we did after gaining independence?

    1. Punish distillers by imposing a harsh tax on all whisky (when the people got pissed, the rebellion was put down by none other than Captain Liberty himself)
    2. Introduce harsh tariffs on imports (entire federal gov't was funded by tariffs up until 20th century) forcing entrepreneurs into smuggling.

    We didn't exactly stick to our principles.
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  2. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    Well fuck foreign businesses, but the whiskey part is outrageous.
  3. DJMametchi Dramacrat

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    I think we overrate the founding father's. we were all taught in school that they were these wise men who shared a dream of freedom. Yeah, no. They are just like the leaders of today, corrupt, greedy, and they'll do whatever I take sto the people to get what they want.

    History is full of people like this.
  4. Slavoj Jizzek Girlvinyl

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    Well the point was we told the British to go fuck themselves over their import tariffs on Spanish, Dutch, and French goods. Rum-bearing Cutters and Sloops from the Dutch East Indies were a regular feature in the dead of night in Carolina ports. We hated tariffs and embargoes and resorted to smuggling to get around them. Then we promptly put up our own.

    Edit: I forgot the rum
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  5. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    Where did rum gone?
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  6. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    It depends on the Founder. Guys like Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, etc. were chill. Hamilton was kind of sketch. I would argue Jefferson was pro-freeing slaves in the formation of the United States of the Union given his Abrahamic values and stated that in some notes he wrote, but because gave up freeing niggers in order to maintain the Union and since slaves (as they were unpaid, this allowed faster capital accumulation) were necessary to develop an agrarian base which would lead to economic prosperity at a faster pace (which it has resulted in) than freeing them and then requiring to pay them.
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  7. 1H4T3NUMB3R5 EDF Elite

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    no taxation without representation, not no taxation
  8. Slavoj Jizzek Girlvinyl

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    It was a tax they never got to vote on formally and was locally unpopular in PA (by a wide margin) and in many other states. It was the first sign of the end of the Republic and it came from the original American nanny-statist: Alexander Hamilton (may he rot in hell).

    It was also the beginning of corporatism as in rural areas whiskey was easier to transport and sell through the harrowing terrain of the hills than bulk grain. It was often used as barter currency. Eastern distilleries managed to wrangle a "tax break" out of the whole ordeal. It was the first collusion of the elites and the state against the average jackass trying to get by.

    Things got so unpopular that Hamilton advocated full military suppression to subdue people who were pissed about being taxed for their own property. Hamilton was a less faggy version of Robespierre.

    The Whiskey Tax was basically the first instance in the US that demonstrated that politicians were willing to bite the hand that fed them in order to gain the alliance and assets of powerful moneyed elite and the reverse. It's ground zero for every bad decision this country made. It is the oldest and earliest form of income tax and the only one that existed up until the mid-19th century and then again until around the mid-20th. And it was select to one group of people with one profession.
  9. 1H4T3NUMB3R5 EDF Elite

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    oh your talking about Hamilton... yeah Hamilton sucks donkey balls.
    we are excluding him and talking about the cool kids like Jefferson.
  10. Gayligula EDF Hero

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    Fuck politicans
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  11. Atomic_Joe Joevahkiin

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    If I find one more fucking doppelganger, I'm going to lose my goddamn mind.

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  12. HyperHominid EDF Elite

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    My Aunt: Williams II, go vote for your fellow black man!!!
    Me: I don't do politics
    Everyone else in my family: RACIST
    When this came along: Look what your "Fellow Black Man" just pulled now, see why politics suck?
    Everyone else: RACIST.
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  13. Dr. Rice Girlvinyl

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    What do you expect of niggers? They would rather vote for the appearance of a man than his qualifications. This makes them no better than high schoolers voting for a Homecoming King.
  14. chops Dramacrat

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    Ron Paul 2016.
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  15. Nicole EDF Hero

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    I'm telling you, it won't work. Unless you were like China and began censoring the internet straight away/early in its life, you cannot censor the internet like this in this day and age. When you try, it fails (America, Australia, other countries I'm not stuffed to look up). Sorry, millionaires. Either charge us less for your shit, or get used to us pirating it. <3
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  16. Weezus Christ Girlvinyl

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    freeing the slaves was the worst mistake we ever made.

    everything after that falls into "should have helped out hitler"
  17. Slavoj Jizzek Girlvinyl

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    Isn't it obvious? You were part of a supersoldier project where clones were grown in test-tubes in an attempt to create elite warriors to serve in the armed forces.

    The project was abandoned when it was discovered that the test subjects, although having a love of firearms and killing minorities, were chugging malt liquor and cheap vodka and surfing for busty thai porn at the age of 5 instead of becoming advanced conscienceless killing machines.
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  18. Baya Rae 4900 Lawlman

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    The term you're looking for is Jacobin.

    Searching for Thai porn sounds pretty conscienceless to me.
  19. Atomic_Joe Joevahkiin

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    DARPA is going to get an angry letter about this.
  20. Baya Rae 4900 Lawlman

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    Oh? And where exactly are you going to send that letter, Joe?
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